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Wednesday
Apr252007

Costco: Fine Wine Merchant :)

Linda, a Wine Camp Blog reader, recently sent me this email about “corky” wines and Costco:

“Hi Craig.  I read your interesting article about corky wine on the web and I hope you will give me some advice.  I recently purchased a bottle of Cavit Pinot Grigio at Costco which turned out to be corky.  When I returned it to Costco here in Georgia (I had my receipt), the manager said that he would let me do a “one-time courtesy return” and made a notation on my account.  Here in Georgia we can return a bad bottle but only in exchange for the same brand, and that rule is fine by me.  He said that they store the wines properly and that there was cork in the bottle and that was why it was corky, implying that I had not opened the bottle properly.  I have had over 30 years as a flight attendant working in first class and am quite accustomed to opening a bottle of wine as well as recognizing a musty, corky odor.   I am quit aggravated with his “one-time courtesy return” and would ask your advice on how to return a bottle should this happen again. ”

I see two mistakes here, first buying wine at Costco and secondly buying Cavit Pinot Grigio. Fortunately your bottle of Cavit was corked, meaning it actually had a flavor - as usually it’s tasteless.

The ignorant response of the manager is inexcusable and highlights why Costco is a bad place to buy wine. The manager clearly had no idea, interest nor training on a product in his store.  People buy wine at Costco as they think they are getting good buys when all they are getting is commercial plonk that has  bribed their way onto their shelves.

I often shop at Costo for toilet paper and such, but never buy wine there becaus they sell boring wines that are bad values at any price. A trip to any real fine wine retailer will get you many more wine bargains. You may not have heard of the brand, but the wines will taste better than anything you’ll get at Costco and not cost you a penny more.

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Reader Comments (18)

Whether you buy great wine or 'boring' wine, you should never accept being treated so shabbily by a retailer.
April 26, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterB
Cavit is the reason I have a hard time selling Pinot G in my wine bar. I have an amazing one from friuli that has depth and minerals and all sorts of complexity. The producer cilps and clips two weeks before harvest to concentrate the flavors and only ages in stainless steel. Once peopl try it thier eyes widen and are very impressed and i say to them, "Now that is what pinot grigio should taste like." Also, retail this paticular wine is maybe 4 more dollars and a tastes like a 30 dollar bottle of wine. Oy Vey!

EVWG
April 27, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterEast Village Wine Geek
With all due respect, I have heard stories of people buying bargains at Costco in its early days of selling fine Bordeaux. People were getting their hands on Mouton and Haut-Brion for $100 to $200 less than retail for the 2000 vintage. Today, Costco's prices in that department seem to have increased. But back then, being faced with the chance of buying such a great vintage at such a low price, wouldn't you have taken the risk? I think I would have.
July 9, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterSimo
With all due respect, what does it matter what they did years ago? Most Costco wine departments aren't selling Mouton and Haut Brion,but only uninteresting commercial plonk, that probably got a decent review in The Wine Spectator.
July 9, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterCraig Camp
I have never been to a Costco but would like to. Seems to me that as many wines as they apparently sell, some must be good labels. The remark about anything Wine Spectator gave a decent rating to is plonk is rather snobby and inaccurate.
August 14, 2007 | Unregistered Commentergoodaker
Costco is a horrible place to buy wine. The last 4 out of 6 bottles of various reds that I have purchased from Costco in Charleston, SC have basically been bottles of vinegar. There was so much sediment in the bottom of one bottle that I thought it looked like a science project. I have contacted all of the wineries to let them know that Costco is ruining their wines. It's the only explanation for it.
August 15, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterBeth
I have purchased a great deal of wine from Costco at a variety of price points with no problems. Nice job of keeping wine snobbery alive and well with that response. Let Linda make up her own mind if she enjoys Cavit or not.
August 16, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterpunch cutter
Then you should keep drinking Cavit and let Linda learn to drink better wine at the same price.
August 27, 2007 | Registered CommenterCraig Camp
Au contraire, Costco has many excellent wines at very good values. Mostly I shop at Costco stores in North Texas, where I find California, French, Italian, Spanish, etc., wines at bargain prices. The best example would be Domaine de Nizas, a Languedoc wine produced by the folks at Napa Valley's Clos du Val. The wine typically sells for under $13 and drinks more like $30-40 . . . plonk it is not.
January 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterJackson
Jackson - I just don't agree. The Domaine de Nizas is a perfect example of a wine without a place. It's industrially produced and has no personality except generic jammy. It could come from anywhere. Certainly not what I'd want to pay $30 or $40 for as I can get the same thing for $8 from Australia. Plonk it is.
January 15, 2009 | Registered CommenterCraig Camp
We all have our own experiences. I buy and drink a lot of wine. I live in NJ. I buy at the Wine Library. I buy at Ho-Ho-Kus Wine & Spirits. I shop Total Wine & More, and several other stores. We also travel a lot spending a month or two in various spots, so we either shop the supermarkets or Costco.

I've had bad bottles from them all, but its rare. I will say that I've never had a problem returning anything, anything to a Costco. In NJ, in Boston, in several CA places, in Seattle, you name it. Never a problem. They just take it back and give you your money. Wine, i-pods, GPSs, even months after you bought it. Its one of the joys of shopping there.

In fact we're going through a mixed case from Costco right now. All are reds, most very recognizable labels. OK, the selection is limited at any time to maybe 80 bottles (?) split between reds and whites. OK, no one to talk with about the wine. ever try to talk to someone in a supermarket?

I've said my piece. Frankly, your Costco description sounds more like you dislike the store . Ever had a bad bottle from your local liquor store and tried to take it back? Two months later? Several bottles to go back? I doubt your local store will welcome you after you return the 3rd bottle. How about that bottle that's been sitting on the neighborhood store floor for two years while the A/C is 70 in Summer and the heat is 80s in winter, or vice versa?

Sorry, but my Costco experience is different than yours. Disclaimer: I'm retired, never worked in retail, don't own costco stock, etc. Just trying to balance out what seems like mostly rants against the store here.
January 24, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterjoe
I don't think these big corporate buyers need us to defend them. They stock their stores mostly based on who pays not on the quality of the wine. In my opinion you'll get much better deals from the independents you mention who care a lot more about the wines they sell. In this case it's not an issue about returning the wine, but that they are selling a clearly mistreated product.

As far as the store I like it just fine for TVs. aluminum foil and such.
January 24, 2009 | Registered CommenterCraig Camp
costco is absolutely excellent for fine wines.chateau petrus,opus 1 etc.all cheaper than wine merchants.corked wine-they will refund.bin ends half price
February 24, 2009 | Unregistered Commenterbig mal
Beth,
Sediment is a natural bi-product of the wine making process and is a collection of fine particles made up of grape skins and other debris. It occurs when the wine maaker decides not to filter his wines in order to preserve their natural integrity. There is absolutely NO way that the people at Costco could "create" more sediment in a red wine bottle, no matter how poorly they may store the wine since the sediment already existed in the bottle before the wine even left the winery. (However, exposing white wine to unnecessary cold temperatures can cause crystals to develop in the bottom of those bottles). I do agree however that Costco is a terrible place to purchase wine. Selection is poor and obviously customer service is lacking.

Linda-in a proper store a corked bottle should be returned for a full refund every time, no questions asked!
March 1, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterMarie-Louise

I won't bother continuing to comments of the return policy - but regarding quality - it is obvious there are some here that turn their nose up at wine purchased at a place that also sells printer ink and blue jeans.

However, Costco (Boston area) offers a tempting array of vintages in a wide range of prices. You may not find that boutique wine you have been searching for, but you usually cannot go wrong with your selection and value. Costco is a great place to buy some fine wine.

May 15, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterGeraldo

Folks need to understand Costco for what it is. Around 80% of their selection is indeed boring and the selection unfortunately is not that broad. But I do often find very good local wines sold well below retail price. Maybe that's a function of being in Southern California.

At any rate, there may be only several wines there at any given time that are interesting to me. I just ignore the mass produced stuff stacked on palettes with a curiously high WS rating. The less ubiquitous wines are in bins that hold about a case of wine. If it's a wine you know and like, buy it up since the price won't get any better!

June 1, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterGreg

Wine taste is subjective - period. Opinions are like "ASSHOLES" everybody's got one!!!

April 5, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterAucour

What a clever comment. By the way, faulted wine is not an opinion, but a fact. This is not a case of not liking a wine, which is subjective, but calling out a retailer for selling damaged goods.

April 5, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterCraig Camp

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